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Brief History of White Box

Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:00 pm

Hi Folks,
I was going through my old files and I found this brief history of WB that I threw together that was based off the previous thread on these boards. I thought it could be useful having it all together like this for future reference. If anyone finds any errors with this, please let me know and I'll update it.

The History of S&W WhiteBox

June 3, 2008
Matt makes a post that appears to announce S&W and includes a link to a player’s section only draft. Finarvyn (Marv Breig) jumps right in with feedback.

June 13, 2008
Mythmere (Matt Finch) makes a post about what will become Swords & Wizardry Core and WhiteBox. It is suggested that maybe someone else should take on WhiteBox, so Matt can focus on Core. It is mentioned by Finarvyn that it appears Matt’s passion is with Core and that he was only doing WB for fans of that version. Finarvyn (Marv Breig) is mentioned to be the person to take over WB.

June 14, 2008
The very next day, Matt announces that Marv is the new head of the WB project.

Jan 22, 2009
The first printing of S&W WhiteBox is published by Mythmere Games. Byline: Matt Finch and Marv Breig. Copyright 2008: Matthew J. Finch
-Note: This is 7 months after Marv took over.

Jan 1, 2010
About 12 months later, the second printing is published by Brave Halfling. Byline: Marv Breig. Copyright 2008: Marv Breig and Matthew J. Finch
-Note: Matt is removed from Byline and Marv is added to copyright.

November 25, 2010
About 11 months later. The third printing is published by Brave Halfling. Byline: Marv Breig. Copyright 2008: Matthew J. Finch
-Note: Marv was removed as a copyright holder. Otherwise this printing looks the same as the second print. I'm not sure how long this was available but I do recall it wasn't very long (maybe a month or two?).

November 25, 2010
About 11 months later, the third printing is published by Mythmere Games. Byline: Marv Breig. Copyright 2008-2011: Matthew J. Finch

-Note: on the same day, Mythmere and Brave Halfling released a third print PDF.

From the 1st print to the final 3rd print by Mythmere, timeline was 1 year and 10 months.

There was a dust up around this time between Matt, Marv and Brave Halfling, that was resolved in January 2011. Most info was deleted but this thread still exists that explains the resolution: http://odd74.proboards.com/thread/5191/all-quiet-again-on-front


February 19, 2015
White Box Companion. Published by Barrel Rider Games. The First of many S&W WB products by Barrel Rider.

August 1, 2016
White Box: Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game. Published by Seattle Hill Games.
Last edited by The Wanderer on Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Brief History of White Box

Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:49 pm

Very nice, thanks for putting this together Charlie. There are also some posts by Matt on Dragonsfoot from 2008/09, I'll post links when I can dig them up.

EDIT: Here are the relevant posts on DF, many but not all are related to S&W White Box: https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/sear ... =titleonly

The first is from 2008 and pertains to the initial version of the S&W Core rules, with a note in the last post about Finarvyn taking over White Box (that last post is from June of 2008).
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